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We were lucky enough to receive another top 100 list today, this time from the guys over at Baseball America. Their list is the only one so far that comes from a group of experts, as opposed to one specific expert. Their list is also a little bit different in that they ranked both Yu Darvish, and Yoenis Cespedes, since both had signed when they prepared their list. You can find the whole list here, and here's their top 10:
1. Bryce Harper, WAS
2. Matt Moore, TAM
3. Mike Trout, LAA
4. Yu Darvish, TEX
5. Julio Teheran, ATL
6. Jesus Montero, SEA
7. Jurickson Profar, TEX
8. Shelby Miller, STL
9. Trevor Bauer, ARI
10. Dylan Bundy, BAL
See someone specifically you think was ranked too highly or too lowly on the list? Think someone else should have broken into the top 10? Start the discussion below.
Keeping with previous lists, here's the "best lineup" based on their rankings:
C - Jesus Montero
1B - Yonder Alonso
2B - Nick Franklin*
3B - Miguel Sano
SS - Jurickson Profar
LF - Yoenis Cespedes
CF - Mike Trout
RF - Bryce Harper
DH - Manny Machado
SP1 - Matt Moore
SP2 - Yu Darvish
SP3 - Julio Teheran
SP4 - Shelby Miller
SP5 - Trevor Bauer
CL - Addison Reed
* - BA listed Franklin as a SS/2B. The top 2B only prospect on their list was Cory Spangenberg of the Padres.
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Really unimpressed
There were a lot of guys on this list who I thought were either ranked far too high or shouldn’t have been ranked.
Too high department:
Singleton at 34
Peacock at 36
Gose at 39
Olt at 43
Cozart at 50
Szczur at 64
Jungmann at 70
Too low:
Arenado at 42!!!!
Taveras at 74
Cuthbert at 84
Some of those were borderline laughable to me especially Arenado at 42 and Cuthbert at 84
sportsfreak2744 - February 21, 2012
How is Gose too high?
You’re talking about one of, if not the best athlete in the minors, with an upside very few can match in the minors. Add to the fact that he’s almost a lock to provide at least some value because of his unbelievable defense, speed and arm, that it would be foolish to exclude him from the top 40. There isn’t a single team in baseball that would say no to having a player like BJ Upton with much more defense as their starting CF.
Arenado is becoming extremely overrated. He won’t hit for much power, he hit well in the Cal League, but, it’s the Cal league, and he still has defensive questions. Consider Brett Lawrie last season. Much better bat, same defensive questions and he wasn’t ranked much higher. Arenado is fine, if not too high at 42.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
I am getting over a very bad head cold
so forgive me, but I think I agree with dude here……shocking, I know. It might be a first…maybe second time…..we see eye to eye….lol.
But I agree that Cuthbert is too low.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Arenado's defense
Consensus seems to be that he has answered the defensive questions well enough to stick at 3B, and some think he will be above-average there, now.
And, I must say, I am SHOCKED to see you jump to defend Anthony Gose. Just…flabbergasted.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
lol
great point!!!
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
It's magic how good offense suddenly leads to "he got better on D"
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
You should actually read about guys
before you spout off. Just because you think you’re smart, and everyone else is dumb, doesn’t mean you necessarily know what you are talking about. Sickels says “I also like his defense at third base, where he combines steadily-improving reliability with a strong arm and decent range.”
Baseball America says: Rockies prospect Nolan Arenado has improved significantly on his defense at third base.
SBNation: There once was concern about Arenado’s defense at third, but he’s worked to improve and those worries are now gone.
And that’s just from a cursory Google search. Come on, man.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
You didn't understand my argument
When a player struggles to hit, he struggles to play D. When a player starts hitting well, suddenly, his defense isn’t that bad. It’s the Ryan Howard effect. People want to love offensive prospects, and they will talk themselves into it.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
I did understand your argument
I just disagree. But, clearly, you’re the one who knows, and everyone else – people whose actual jobs are to evaluate prospects – is an idiot.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
Some people are stock brokers for a living
It does not mean they are good stock brokers.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
Excellent argument
I mean, really, you win. Knocked it out of the park. Even though every single prospect evaluator that I can find has mentioned Arenado’s defensive improvement, clearly they are all mistaken, and you are the only person who sees through their failings.
You couldn’t pay me enough to be a know-it-all teenager ever again. I imagine I was just as insufferable.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
When you realize that you can be better than "experts"
You don’t care what the consensus is. You don’t have to agree with the consensus. The consensus right now? “Go Offense!!!” Figure out how many prospect “experts” underrated defense first prospects over the years?
People don’t like and don’t understand defense, that’s not a secret. When people do, I can start to respect there opinions.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
Their*
Yikes that was bad.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
don't you know
dude is the smartest dude on the planet?
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Sorry, that SBNation quote
actually came from MLB.com.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
I'm not a fan of "athlete" prospects
There are serious questions over whether he can hit. Sorry, but I don’t care how fast you are if your hit tool is a major question. Gose does not compare to BJ as far as power either so that’s a bad comparison although hit tools may be the same: lacking.
Also, Arenado extremely overrated?! and won’t hit for much power? His swing and lightning quick wrist seem to suggest otherwise. He is a 20-30 HR guy in his prime with an OUTSTANDING hit tool. More XBH than K’s.
sportsfreak2744 - February 21, 2012
And no way does Olt belong at 43
right behind Arenado. JOKE
sportsfreak2744 - February 21, 2012
He doesn't need the hit tool to be a great player
If he hits .250, he’s a 5 WAR player. If he ever manages to hit .270 or .280, he’s putting up 8 WAR, and I don’t think anyone around him or below him has that sort of potential.
Good for Arenado, he has 1 plus tool. Gose has the same power upside, way more speed, way better defense, way more patience and an incredible arm. The fact that you want to argue that Arenado should be above Gose is foolish.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
Calm down
No need to go calling anyone foolish. I would argue that Gose does not have Arenado’s power upside, in fact, and I would be far from alone. It’s great that you’re excited about one of your team’s prospects, but maybe check out what people more knowledgeable than you have to say about the guy. Sickels rates him Toronto’s #8 prospect, with A tools but C+ skills.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
Quoting Sickels for prospects is like quoting a 2 year old for calculus
It means less than nothing.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
OK, buddy
You clearly know more than everyone. Why should anyone bother debating with the all-knowing, all-seeing baseball guru that is dude3? Can I ever be forgiven? Jesus.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
Because so few people understand value
And frankly, I don’t think Sickles is one of them.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
seriously
why bash Sickels? I think he has established himself over the years as one of the best in the business. Not sure where you come off bashing him like that.
if you are going to make a statement like that, you should back it up with proof, or an explanation. Anyone can hide behind a fake name and jump on these blogs and flame one writer/reader after another.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
I'm not "bashing" Sickels
I’m saying I don’t agree with his prospect evaluations. But oh no, how dare I criticize someone who publicly posts rankings on the internet.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
you can
maybe I misunderstood your comment above with the 2 year old reference……
what is the issue with quoting a prospect expert? if you disagree, just say so….no need to compare to a 2 year old…..
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
I'm saying quoting other people, regardless of who it may be, its irrelevant
What I see, is totally different than what Sickels or any “expert” for that matter sees. As for Sickels’ assessment on Gose, it couldn’t be more wrong.
C+ tools? I don’t think so. His speed and baserunning is major league ready, his defense is major league ready, his arm is ridiculous, and I don’t see how an outfielder who throws 90 MPH with accuracy can have a C+ arm.
Sickels is looking at his offense, which isn’t surprising, as I said above, people like offense. Gose has 3 A tools right now, and it’s damn hard to argue otherwise.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
And another mistake
That should be “3 A level skills”, not tools.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
You've actually got it backwards
Gose has A level tools, but has so far translated them into C level skills. Tools = potential, skills = results.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012 via mobile
His arm, speed, and defense have been great
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
so how do you know he
has 3 A tools if you aren’t quoting anyone? have you scouted him?
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Yes, I've seen him play
His speed is absurd, and there’s no questioning that. He threw 90+ as a pitcher in high school and his arm was dead on accurate on all of his throws and he looked like a better version of Peter Bourjos in centerfield. The sample size is obviously small, but the only issue he has is his hit tool, which isn’t that big of a deal anyways considering how good his other skills are.
It’s an entirely different situation for fantasy purposes, but we are concerned with that in this discussion.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
Please inform me
When the last time a hit tool wasn’t a big deal? It’s great that Gose can run like a deer and has a plus arm but his hit tool is lacking and he isn’t going to hit for power.
sportsfreak2744 - February 22, 2012
Mike Stanton doesn't have a great hit tool
He has tons of power. Replace that power with absurd speed and defense and you have Gose.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
Stanton still strikes out less in the majors
than Gose has in the minors. Plus, speed becomes irrelevant if you can’t get on base.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Except for the fact that he's had an OBP above .348 the past 3 seasons
All while being young for the levels he was playing at.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
Except that
He actually had an OBP of .332 at high-A in 2010, split between the Phillies and Jays systems, and an OBP of .323 for the entire 2009 season in low-A with the Phillies.
So, you’re actually completely wrong. But nice try.
pooptallica - February 23, 2012
You keep using the word "absurd"
Gose’s speed tool is pretty consistently ranked a 70 on the 20-80 scale. That’s fast, yes, but absurd? No.
We get it, you have a huge crush on the guy, just try to keep it in your pants when posting around here, y’know?
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
His defense is an 80
His arm is an 80.
There’s 3 way above average tools.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
So let's have some fun with value
Let’s assume Gose makes zero progression whatsoever. We can use an equivalency calculator to figure out what his AA numbers look like at the major league level. It translates to a wOBA on par with what Alex Rios did this past season, which is god awful. It’s about -24 runs worth of offense.
He receives 2 runs for his positional adjustment, let’s be conservative and say another 3 runs for his baserunning, and 24 runs for replacement value. Just from that alone, he is a replacement level player, but this isn’t including his defense.
We are looking at a great defensive center fielder, with the potential to be the best in the league, so you can add whatever figure you like to get his value.
A 21 year old who just finished AA while being told not to bunt, who is able to put up replacement level value in center fielder is extremely rare. Either prospect “experts” don’t see any progression on Gose’s part, don’t see him as a good defender, see everyone around him as true superstars, or are wrong.
Yes, his contact issues suck, but he doesn’t need great contact to be good, and most people seem to be overlooking that fact.
His floor is high, and his ceiling is beyond absurd. There is no denying how good he is now, and how good can become, unless you’re stuck in the 60’s and still don’t believe in defense.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
Maybe take off those blue-jay-tinted glasses
Gose’s floor is not high, his floor is the floor of a guy who struck out 25% in high-A, 29% the next year in rookie ball, followed by 26% at AA, and who may never develop the contact skills to be a regular major league ballplayer. THAT is his floor. You seem to think his floor is as a guaranteed starting centerfielder, and that is what is actually absurd. Nobody is saying he doesn’t have the potential to be a superstar, but saying that his potential range begins at guaranteed starter and ends at best centerfielder in history is patently ridiculous. If he strikes out 30% of the time at the MLB level, which is entirely possible, then he becomes Austin Jackson with maybe slightly more pop. And that is something you need to understand and deal with, EVEN THOUGH HE IS IN THE JAYS’ SYSTEM.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
And Austin Jackson isn't an awful player
He is above replacement. I understand his contact woes are there but his other skills make him a really good player, Jays goggles, or not.
dudedudedude - February 21, 2012
And I would say AJax is probably close to his median range
Gose’s floor is as a bench player with excellent defense, but a .210 BA and sub-.300 OBP.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
So you're assuming he gets worse?
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
Against much better pitching?
Yes, I’m saying it’s a distinct possibility. His floor is Willie Mays Hayes, in fact. May never be able to hit the breaking pitch.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
He could hit .220 against major league pitching at this point
His ability to take a walk has never been an issue, so you are looking at some serious regression here.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
For those too young to have seen Major League
“I hit like Mays, and I run like Hayes!”
“You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit.”
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
His ceiling
is still around a .275 BA.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Explain
This 24 runs of replacement value you’ve decided to award him, please. I’m not understanding where this comes from.
A Behemoth - February 22, 2012
The replacement level of a center fielder in the American League is about 24 runs
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
dude
you were going good until you threw in this:
“There is no denying how good he is now, and how good can become, unless you’re stuck in the 60’s and still don’t believe in defense.”
to whom are you talking? are there prospect experts who are stuck in the 60s? explain.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
I think
It’s just part of his general “vaguely insult anyone with whom I disagree” philosophy.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
You should really read my sig
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
I have
you’re quite the charmer.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Everyone
Defense is still criminally underrated, in prospects and in major league players.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
if Gose makes no progression from here
He is not a big leaguer.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
sportsfreak2744 - February 22, 2012
There are plenty of worse players then him
Plenty of which are starting.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
For real
Sickels has proven for years that he has a very high level of understanding when it comes to prospect evaluation. He publishes an intensely-researched book every year, and is a well-respected and established member of the prospecting community. What have you done, dude, other than being a contrarian loudmouth who likes to argue and manipulate numbers? Comparing Sickels to a 2-year-old performing calculus just comes across as petulant name-calling, to me.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
dudedudedude
You talk about being ‘stuck in the 60s’ yet you bust on the MLE calculator on us! Considering the amount of criticism those get due to their inaccuracies, how can you come off so better-than-thou?
sportsfreak2744 - February 22, 2012
They are not inaccurate because they provide flawed statistics
They are inaccurate because they assume no progression or regression towards the mean, which in this case, I was 100% content with doing, to prove a point that Anthony Gose with no progression is still a big leaguer, which can’t be said about most prospects.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
Ann Coulter publishes researched pieces as well
Does that mean you have to agree with her? Or have you yet to realize that it is possible to disagree with someone.
I don’t understand where I manipulate numbers. I understand numbers. There’s a difference, but hey, numbers make a player I like look bad, so they must be wrong.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
How would you know if Ann Coulter does any research?
I would assume that all the pages are pretty stuck together by now in all of your copies of her books.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
It doesn't have to be Ann Coulter
Pick anyone you disagree with, which usually involves someone intelligent…
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
It's funny how defensive you get
and how obsessively you have to denigrate those who disagree with you. You’ve become the new Real LT, just with a dictionary and some math books.
I think we’re done here.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
You never answered my question
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
simmer down, kid.
ViolentMike - February 22, 2012
Arenado is being lauded
both for his improvement in defense AND his work ethic.
I can show you videos of all the drills he is doing at 3rd too if you’d like. He has made huge strides in his defense and that is usually what scouts/experts talk about first when Arenado is brought up.
sportsfreak2744 - February 22, 2012
Like I said earlier
It’s amazing how many players have better work ethic and improved defense once their bat looks good. Who know, Arenado could hit enough to win a gold glove some day.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
You're clearly not paying attention to Arenado then
He’s been working on defense all offseason. You can kick and scream all you want but it won’t change what so many scouts/experts are saying about Arenado or Gose.
And until further notice, they are infinitely more reliable than you.
sportsfreak2744 - February 22, 2012
That's great
A 300 pound man works on his cardio, it doesn’t make him fit.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
reading your comments here
i think it could be pretty fairly said you have no idea what you’re talking about in prospect valuation, especially as concerns arenado and gose
papality - February 22, 2012 via Android app
Woopty Fucking Do
I rip on a player someone likes, people cry.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
its rather obvious you're the one who's crying
and you dont really need to swear and be so defensive; your credibility is already zero, so you can’t really hurt it, but now you just look like a jackass
papality - February 22, 2012 via Android app
It's scary how people get so upset over words
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
it's scary you can't see past your own homerism and objectively valuate a guy who struck out 30% of the time in rookie ball as a 21 year old
papality - February 22, 2012
I would try those stats again
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
guys
please refrain from the foul language here.
If it happens again, this comments thread will be shut down.
Also, let’s refrain from the name calling…..it adds no value whatsoever to the topics.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
He was 20
Since his birthday is in August, he was 20 when he played 29 games with the Jays’ rookie ball Desert Dogs, but, yes, he struck out 29.7% of the time. So, beyond the swing of a couple of months, there, his stats are correct.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Right
So let’s totally ignore his AA games and focus on a stat that doesn’t stabilize for 600+ plate appearances. Logic is fantastic.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
I never said to focus on it
But he still struck out 26.2% of the time at AA. Not a massive improvement.
In any case, your attitude is so repulsive as to make any argument you might make easy to ignore.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
26.2 K% in 587 PAs
do those not count?
papality - February 22, 2012
also his Ks increased as the season went on, and his BBs decreased
papality - February 22, 2012
I already know he strikes out a lot
Everyone does, but thankfully, there is more to baseball than just a hit tool.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
increasing strikeouts and decreasing walks throughout the season
suggest an inability to adjust which, regardless of how fast he might be, will prevent him from become a decent major league player, if one at all
papality - February 22, 2012
no one's saying he's not a good prospect
just not the #1 be-all and end-all of prospects you seem to think he is
papality - February 22, 2012
goldstein's 68 is a much better spot for him than BA's 39
papality - February 22, 2012
Once again, I never said he was the number 1 prospect
I said he was underrated. People are so inconsistent their evaluations. Mike Stanton strikes out a ton, his plate discipline will improve because he’s Mike Stanton. Anthony Gose strikes out a ton, he will regress, because he’s Anthony Gose.
Where is the logic? You have someone young for his level in the midst of changing his entire approach because of a new system where they are restricting what he is allowed to do and yet, he will never improve. I’m fine with saying he strikes out a ton, and I wouldn’t be shocked if he never strikes out less than 20% of the time, but his other skills are way more impressive than other people give him credit for.
His power is average for a center fielder and his hit tool is weak, which means people won’t like him because they can’t contribute to their fantasy teams, but a super fast, super athletic, incredible defender with massive upside is more valuable than people want to believe.
If people want to make assertions to players skillsets, fine, do so but be consistent.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
stanton both cut his strikeouts and increased his walks from 2010 to 2011
and was in the big leagues as a 20 year old, while gose was King 30% of the time in rookie ball at the same age. stanton’s first tour of AA was ugly, yeah, but he was 19 years old, and he still walked 9% of the time, and when he went back in 2010, he has a nearly even BB/K driven by an absurd 18.1 BB%. gose can’t even dream of that kind of walk rate.
so why aren’t you drooling all over billy hamilton, since they’re comparably fast and skilled defensively?
papality - February 22, 2012
what makes you so absolutely certain that gose's discipline will improve?
given that there’s absolutely nothing to suggest it will, as he goes on and faces better and better pitching
papality - February 22, 2012
I never said it would
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
you imply that's what you think
papality - February 22, 2012
No
In fact, I mentioned that I never thought he would have a great hit tool. What I did say however, is that consistency in evaluations is important.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
whether you think you're implying it or not is irrelevant
you’re implying it; at the very least, you’re implying that you think he will maintain his overall 2011 AA line, despite the fact that he got significantly worse as the season went on
papality - February 22, 2012
the problem is
they are players with different tools. What is acceptable for a guy with 80 power is not as acceptable for a guy with 80 speed. Apples and oranges.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
I was trying to find the best way to voice this exact idea
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
High quality defense
Is the same as high quality offense. Whether or not a players gets 30 runs from being a great center fielder or getting 30 runs from power does not matter, it’s still 30 runs.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
no one is a +30 CF
that’s ridiculous; plenty of people however are +30 hitters
papality - February 22, 2012
Gutierrez is might close
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
dude
do you always have to come off as arrogant? Seriously. The jabs here and there are uncalled for. I would appreciate you showing everyone more respect here.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
Sarcasm doesn't exist without stupidity
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
Fake Teams will exist without dude if you keep this shit up!!!!
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
Oh no the world is ending
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
you don't know when to stop do you?
I think I have been pretty fair with you here, dude/….cut the shit.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
Wow
You really are the new Real LT. You should be so proud.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
This is the proboards all over again
I make arguments, you call names and refuse to have a legitimate point of view. We all know how that worked out for you.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
glad I missed that
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
Ok, buddy
How did that work out for me, again? I believe it ended with you voicing your support for Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, and me getting so disgusted that I walked away from the argument.
Which is what I’m doing here. You can take that as a win for you, if you want, since your rampant insecurity seems to need it so badly.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Did they
piss in his Molson? wow.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
Feel free to read it Ray
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
I'm trying to think of a response to this without name-calling
But, really, I think the kind of person you are has become painfully evident to anyone and everyone.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
I'd try something new
Stop focusing on the semantics and start focusing on the arguments. No matter how many times you say I’m an ass, it doesn’t make your arguments any better, nor is it a valid counter point to stats.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
I have used the stats, plenty, in fact
And the fact is, I actually happen to think Gose will be a pretty good major leaguer, possibly a great one.
What I am trying to impress upon you is that your awful attitude, condescension, arrogance, and generally dick-ishness makes everyone want to disagree with you no matter what. The way you act is to your own detriment, in these types of arguments, and in life in general. Respecting dissenting opinions, and disagreeing without insulting will do you much better in life than constantly having to seem like you’re so much better and smarter than all these idiots who deign to debate you.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
hello
interesting
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Sano is a physical beast
And he’s just now 18? maybe just barely 19, I don’t feel like checking. So it’s assumed that he will get even bigger over the next few years, which puts his power potential into the absolute elite realm. But also means he is extremely unlikely to stick at 3B.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
true
I think he is already up to 235 lbs….I guess first base or LF will be in his future.
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
In my other keeper league
There’s a guy who has owned Sano since he was 15. Seems a little ridiculous, but it looks like it will pay off for him. I kind of like our rule that you can pick up anyone, of any age. Bryce Harper was owned at age 16.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
I like that rule as well
need to add it to the FT Dynasty league rules…….remove dude from the rules throne!!!!
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Well
you might have a bit more sway if you’d go ahead and SIGN UP FOR THE YAHOO LEAGUE. It’s all set up, we’re just waiting on you and TJ so everyone’s rosters can be input. ;)
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
lol
sorry about that……I saw your email this morning. Will take care of it tonight.
I need to check my Google email more, I guess.
Did I get those studs Loney, McGehee and Laroche??
Ray Guilfoyle - February 21, 2012
Interesting definitions of “studs” you’ve got there Ray…
Jason Hunt - February 21, 2012
Yep
You got em all. At the low, low price of $1/1 year. I thought about outbidding you for LaRoche, but mistakenly thought that Daniel Murphy was still available and put in a (now invalid) claim for him, instead.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
If that is true
check out the numbers that Eddie Rosario put up in the same league / team as him.
also moving to 2b = fantasy gold
BigG'S - February 21, 2012 via Android app
Is this about Sano?
There is absolutely zero chance of him moving to 2B. He’s destined for LF or 1B. He’s 6’3"-4", and listed at 195-200lbs. in most places, but has been rumored to have already grown, as Ray said, up to possibly 235lbs (Prospect Instinct lists him at 230). He’s Miggy’s size, or will be, but likely not as fat.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
Rosario
Did put up some serious numbers for Elizabethton. Is he moving to 2B? Some links seem to indicate that. He’s 2 years older than Sano, though, so age relative to league should temper the awe of those 2011 stats a bit.
pooptallica - February 21, 2012
Anthony Gose is garbage.
ViolentMike - February 22, 2012
This is what happens when New York fans try and add to discussions.
dudedudedude - February 22, 2012
BA's Badler on Arenado-dated June 3rd
Ray Guilfoyle - February 22, 2012
To be fair
This is from June 3, 2010. Arenado did display some defensive woes that year, though he was sometimes projected as above-average, as he was here. He has worked very hard to adjust to the new position and the tougher leagues, and has apparently gotten to the point where he is expected to be at least average at 3B, which is what everyone is currently praising him for.
pooptallica - February 22, 2012
Wow! Gose must be a top 10 prospect
Absurd speed tool
80 defense tool
80 arm tool
same power upside with Arenado, whose only plus tool is power
hitting skill being able to make .220 against ML pitching AT THIS POINT
The hypothetical player dude just described is basically ‘(Harper + Trout) / 2 maybe with a little less hitting for average skill’ . He should be at least our top 10 guy, not just 39.
Tann - February 24, 2012
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